Quoted by Joshua on November 20 2008:
So maybe a recession is a good time to start a startup. It’s hard to say whether advantages like lack of competition outweigh disadvantages like reluctant investors. But it doesn’t matter much either way. It’s the people that matter. And for a given set of people working on a given technology, the time to act is always now.



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18 comments so far
Paul Leader 20 Nov 08
Spot on.
I wonder if we will see more companies actually trying to make a profit, rather than pursue years of VC funding and then selling out.
We will see more businesses based on a sound financial model, spending less but doing more, rather than some “cool” idea that is actually pointless, just so they can IPO three years down the line.
Paul
Paul Leader 20 Nov 08
I should add one more thing:
While it might be harder to get funding right now, it has never been cheaper and easier to get an internet based business up and running. With the likes of Google, Amazon, and Heroku providing cheap (or free) infrastructure that scales without you having to do much work yourself you don’t have to work at the scaling problem until you start getting really big.
It is now easy and cheap to try out an idea and see if it sticks. if it does, then you can worry about scaling. If it doesn’t, then you haven’t blown thousands on hardware, infrastructure and office space, that you now have to offload into a buyers market.
Paul
CJ Curtis 20 Nov 08
Great insight.
A “bad economy” is defined by the ENTIRE economy. A single business is so small in the grand scheme of things, the economy is only one of many, many factors.
I am a business owner, and our client roster has exploded in the last six months, simply because we’re hitting full stride and we a lot of things better than our competition. And we’re not what you would call “price competitors.” We charge what we feel is right without exception.
Saverio Mondelli 20 Nov 08
A bad economy gives you the opportunity to start out with a lot against you. If you can survive a bad economy, your business will probably only get stronger as the economy improves. On top of that, that initial “necessity” of needing to be frugal and tight with your bank account will carry through the years, even as the economy begins to recover.
Jay Owen 20 Nov 08
With every downturn there is opportunity. Not to take advantage of people, but to help provide services that are a more efficient solution to their business or just life in general. Opportunity exists, you just might have to work a little hard to find the door and walk through it.
Geoff 20 Nov 08
And to Saverio’s point, an entrepreneur that weathers a downturn (especially a downturn as significant as this one), earns an extra degree of respect from the folks that matter.
Lenders, investors, prospective employees, prospective partners, and prospective customers will all remember this challenging time, they’ll remember all the people they watched go under, and they’ll appreciate the stamina, perseverance, and grit that it took to overcome the turbulence of 2007 to 20XX. A few years from now, when they choose which horses to bet on, they’re more likely to bet on the ones that succeeded today.
Don Schenck 20 Nov 08
I disagree, in that I believe ANY time is a good time to start. Just start. Take action. Planning and scheming are often just excuses to procrastinate.
That’s my opinion.
David Andersen 20 Nov 08
I would think the one negative to starting in a bad economy is the lack of customers willing to spend money – or having the money to spend.
Joshua Sierles 20 Nov 08
David,
Lack of free-flowing cash is usually a valuable constraint. It forces you to focus on the real value of your business. If people aren’t willing to spend on your service in crunch times, your service simply doesn’t provide enough value.
David Andersen 20 Nov 08
That’s a good point Joshua. But I think it’s more subtle than that. Businesses (customers) can see the value in your service during a crunch time, but still allocate their resources to other activities. If there’s less money to spend, there’s less to spend. They may want to implement your new wizbang and they may know that it will improve their bottom line, but they may only be able to get by with their old approach so they can maintain their present state.
mike 20 Nov 08
Even more PG nonsense. This recession/depression will last until 2010-2011. Starting now means you will have tough time for over TWO years! Good luck!
A smart person would:
1) Make sure they keep their current job 2) Maybe, and I really mean maybe, work on a site on the side but keep it low 3) Think about “starting up” in 2010.
GeeIWonder 20 Nov 08
I like this point and I’ve made it myself.
Markets shift—that what thy are intended to do. Major shifts mean major opportunities. You’ll need to find a business model where liquidity is not important though.
Also, I don’t really agree with your follow-up… it’s not really a valuable constraint (though I get what you’re trying to say). It’s just something you have to live with.
Joshua Sierles 20 Nov 08
David,
Fair enough. However, it’s wrong to make the assumption that the market for your product is smaller or more reluctant because there is ‘less money’ to go around. Most of my friends who work in the bar or gambling business are seeing great returns right now. :)
Bringing down the bottom line by trying a new product might also be a boon, rather than shedding employees or simply ‘cutting back’. Granted there are dour cases in which this does not apply, but don’t assume there isn’t a healthy middle ground between successful and bankrupt.
Geel,
You don’t have to live with ‘less money’ if nobody is paying you yet.
David Andersen 20 Nov 08
Joshua -
I agree with what you are saying. There are always exceptions. My experience is with selling expensive enterprise software and projects and I can definitely attest that spending does go down on some software and projects when the customer has to tighten the belt.
Ryan 20 Nov 08
I contend that now is an awesome time to start a company.
- Labor is readily available and affordable
- Rent is readily available and more affordable
- People are realizing that their corporate job isn’t as secure as they
thought it was
- There is less competition
And if your startup offers people a way to save money on something, you can’t ask for a more perfect scenario than a huge recession.
oldmoe 21 Nov 08
David,
I am seeing enterprises that are coming to us to build solutions tailored to the need and on top of open source stacks.
This in contrast to their usual expensive so called enterprise portal based solutions built on top of enterprise application servers with hefty licenses.
There are times when people think more about smart spending and being more efficient.
It is far fetched to imagine an IT manager rolling out a 2 year SAP integration project these days.
Yet many will turn to small shops for a small project that will yield them good value for the money they spend.
These are times where real value as opposed to bullet point value rules
Martial 21 Nov 08
Companies are cutting back on a lot of things they would rather keep. Find a way to provide those things for less and you have a market.
For example, lots of companies have cut back on travel, so face-to-face meetings are out. But some sort of communication is still necessary. What do companies still need even if they can’t get the f-t-f? Campfire, Skype, and . . . you.
themig 25 Nov 08
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